Thylacine
Thylacine
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09 Sep 1999 AUSTRALIA:
The Tasmanian backlash.
By Anne Barbeliuk.
THE Tasmanian tiger must be turning in its grave - or shivering in its formaldehyde. A preserved thylacine pup was the subject of heated debate around Tasmania yesterday after NSW revealed plans to clone it and resurrect the Tasmanian tiger from extinction. Thylacine experts and conservationists were united in slamming the project as an expensive exercise in science fiction. They argued that the many millions of dollars required to play God would be better spent trying to behave like responsible mortals. They said saving animals from extinction was more valuable than bringing them back from the dead. Along with the criticism came a Pandora's box of questions. How would a cloned thylacine be bred? Where would it live? Would it survive? What animal would be its surrogate mother? The debate follows the NSW Government's announcement of the formation of the Rheuben Griffiths Trust, which is dedicated to cloning the Tasmanian tiger.
The trust - set up by the Griffiths family and The Australian Museum - is pinning its hopes on extracting chromosomes from a Tasmanian tiger pup that was preserved in a bottle in 1866. The pup is kept in the Australian Museum in Sydney. The project would be loosely based on the DNA cloning method used to create Dolly the sheep. Critics yesterday variously labelled the plan as "harebrained", "deplorable" and "bizarre". In the words of wildlife manager Nick Mooney said: "In Tasmania we have hundreds of species currently on the threatened list. We have to choose between gimmicks and looking after the place." Mr Mooney, from the Tasmanian Parks and Wildlife Service, slammed the plan as a gimmick. "There is no future in virtual wildlife," he said. My cautionary view may sound like I'm a wet blanket but I'm faced with the day-to-day realities of dwindling habitats." He was joined by the Tasmanian Conservation Trust. "This is a misdirection of resources," Conservation Trust director Michael Lynch said.Veteran Tasmanian tiger expert, and author of three books on the subject, Eric Guiler said he agreed with those views. "I agree that the money could be better spent protecting species that are teetering on the edge." Even Premier Jim Bacon was not rushing to congratulate his NSW Labor Party colleague Bob Carr. A spokesperson for Mr Bacon said: "This is a novel suggestion and we will be watching it with interest. "But we believe the best chance of seeing a Tasmanian tiger is still through the Tasmanian Museum and Art Gallery travelling exhibition, Tasmanian Tiger - The Mystery of the Thylacine." This was a view enthusiastically supported by the TMAG.
TMAG director Patricia Sabine also shared the view of conservationists. "We are more concerned with the threatened species that exist today," she said. Even those behind the project admitted the scheme had some science-fiction elements. But they believe there could be method in the madness. Randolph Griffiths, whose family has set up the trust which is funding the venture, said yesterday he hoped people would look at the bigger picture. "We believe it's a wonderful madcap venture," Mr Griffiths said. "And while it's a difficult task, it's not impossible." Mr Griffiths, a Sydney-based architect who has Tasmanian convict heritage, said the research was not just focussed on the end result but on uncovering all sorts of medical breakthroughs along the way. "The process can give us as many benefits as the outcome," he said. MR Griffiths, whose family is helping fund the research for its first three years, said he shared concerns about present-day threatened species. "I agree with all those views". But he said such criticisms always lurked near any large allocation of money. "People said the same thing about Sydney taking on the Olympics," he said. "As always, the issue of where to allocate funds is very difficult. But it should be viewed in a broader sense because you have to look at the benefits of the process. "You can always argue money would be better spent on education or on the terminally ill or something else. "And these concerns are valid - but we are talking about internationally cutting-edge research which is to be undertaken in this country." Scientific advances aside, Tasmanian critics are concerned about the ethics of the adventure. Dr Guiler, who has studied thylacines and their habitat since 1952, said questions needed to be raised about what would become of the end product. "Will they be able to look after themselves in the wild?" he said. "And if they intend to put it in a zoo I think that's deplorable."
There were also concerns about an Australian Museum suggestion that a Tasmanian devil would be the mostly likely candidate for the cloned cub's surrogate mother. Mr Lynch said the Conservation Trust would be totally opposed to such a plan. "The Tasmanian Parks and Wildlife Service should not be in the business of taking wild animals from Tasmania and sending them to Sydney to live in captivity to be surrogate mothers for an extinct species," he said. "Our native species should not be used at the whim of scientists." Mr Mooney said the plan sent entirely the wrong message to the community and industry in particular. "It gives people a great way out of conserving threatened species," he said. "Why worry about what we're doing to habitats when we can just clone species back into existence?" Mr Mooney shared the view of London-based thylacine expert Dr Jeremy Austin, who told The Mercury recently that any hope of resurrecting the species was "big-time dreamtime". Mr Mooney said the scientists may end up with an animal with stripes, or with fangs or with some other thylacine attribute. But he said it was unlikely they'd ever end up with the real thing. "The DNA of that preserved pup would have degraded," he said. "It would be like trying to find a phone number in a phone book that only has a couple of pages left. "It's bizarre. It's a red herring."
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| Thylacine Encounter Buderim, QLD |
| Buderim, Queensland, my home from 1997- 2002, and I was visiting friends after New Years 2003. There is a local legend of a "Buderim Beast" that you may have already heard of, with more than one local thinking that a "stripey dog thing" lives in the forest on the western slopes of Buderim Mountain, heading out towards the highway- there's lots of forest there. I had heard the Thylacine rumours and the Buderim Beast mentioned in the same sentence by long time locals living in Mooloolah, Landsborough and the small Glasshouse Mountains communities as well. Anyway, I was driving very late (or early) from a friend's house in Maroochydore to where I was staying on top of Buderim. A short cut takes you up past Harry's Restaurant through the forest on the mountain- steep slope, thick forest, very tight winding road. (can't remember the name of the road, but it's well known in Buderim, as is Harry's). Clear night, no fog, I wasn't under the influence of anything, and as I rounded a tight turn I saw right in front of me a Thylacine at the roadside. It started and ran into the bush. Only a second of view, but I have no doubts- the body proportions, the stripes- I'd bet money on it without hesitation. Of course, it could just be some crafty local's big headed whippet with stripes painted on it, but hoaxes by locals are what cryptozoology has to deal with, I suppose. It's been a good pub story for a year and a half, but i just logged on to your site during a bored web surfing session after typing "yowie" into google and thought I'd let you know about it. By the way, I grew up in Taree NSW which has plenty of Yowie stories eminating from around nearby Krambach. A mate of mine swears that they had a yowie on their property! 8 feet tall and smelling like burned hair (this would have been around 1988). |
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| Thylacine Sighting. Kenilworth Qld, 1998. Thylacine caught 1978. Nundle NSW. |
| Inquiry: DATE:1998 TIME:0200 LOCATION:Obi-Obi Rd, between Mapleton & Kenilworth (QLD) TERRAIN:Thickly wooded forest Responding to a life threatening callout, two Ambulance officers from Nambour Ambulance Station headed to the Mountain township of Kenilworth. The officer relating the story stated they were using the sirens in the forested areas to try to scare of the kangaroos from out of their way. Upon navigating a corner leading to a staight stretch of the road, an animal the size of an average dog appeared in their high beam and was standing in the middle of the road. As the Ambulance slowed down, the officers had a good close look at the creature at approximately 50 meters for about 5 to 10 seconds, before it ran into the bush. The officer relating the story stated that the animal was the size of a medium size dog, had a long ridged straight tail that was almost parallel to the ground as it walked and had definite dark stipes in a semi vertical configuation along the side of its body to its rump. When they arrived back to the station they informed their colleagues that they were convinced they had seen a Tasmanian tiger. Unfortunately, they were laughed at. Upon relating this story years later to another fellow Ambulance officer, this officer had the following story to relate. In 1978, he was 7 or 8 at at the time and lived on a farm near Nundle NSW. The terrain was undulating wooded hillsides with ajoining farming valleys. The family set steel traps to catch rabbits/hares that were pests in the area. They checked them every few days also. One particualr day they came upon a trap with a stange looking animal in it. It was about the size of a dingo but had a long staight tail with distinctive stripes down its back & sides. Her father realized that this was some unknown creature that they had never seen before. The father and a neighbour got a hassion bag and threw it over the animal. The animal was growling aggressively at this time .With the bag over the animals head they were able to safely release it back into the wild. They never did see any sign of it again. Andrew Thompson |
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| Thylacoleo sighting, Gilderoy Victoria 2002 |
| My sighting was at a logging coup, outside Gilderoy, Victoria. Had followed one of the tracks into the coop, but well away from where current logging was taking place. The terrain was fairly deep inside the coop:~10-15km from the main Gilderoy-Yarra Junction Road. Was obvious that the coop had been subject to logging activity, but some time ago as the trunks of the remaining mountain ash trees were pretty well decayed. The road was clay/gravel and fairly damp. Mountainside one one side, steep drop to a gully/creek on the other. I remember seeing a pretty well rusted wreck of a car in the gully. The further in we went, the less the signs of logging and the bush reverted back into the sort of mountain countryside that is all through the area. What_they_saw = Driving into the coop, something started down the hillside on the RHS, got on to the road, stopped about 15m infront of us before continuing across the road and then made its way down into the gully on the LHS of the road. I was driving pretty slowly, given the condition of the road, and noticed that something was making the undergrowth on the hillside moved about. I thought it was probably just a kangaroo or a wombat and didnt think anything more of it until it got onto the road. My first impressions were that it looked like a quoll on steriods. It was uniformly dark in colour, had the same sort of blunt head shape that a Tasmanian Devil has and a long tail like a kangaroo's which it appeared to use as some sort of balance or rudder. It was definitely not a feral cat (it looked too much like a dog for that). It was about the size of a large dog, about 1-5 m long, but really reminded me of a Tasmanian Devil. It loped or gamoblled into the middle of the road; stopped, looked in our direction; and sauntered off to the other side of the road and descended in to the gully. When we got to the same point; I got out and looked for it using one of the 4WD's spots - followed it for about 20m as it followed the course of the creek, crossed it and disappeared on the other side. I have other reports about 'panther' sightings in the area (Gilderoy, Narbethong, Noojee, Marysville, the Archeron Gap and Way), but this didnt look anything like a typical panther or leopard. Weather = Early morning, cold misty with slight drizzle - typical mid winter morning in the area Creature_doing = Comming down the hillside, crossed the road and went down into the gully where it followed the creek for about 20m and then disappeared into bush the other side. When it got into the lights of the 4WD it stopped and looked at us before moving off - it really didnt seem to concerned about us being there |